“The Flag of Islam will one day fly over the White House”
When ABC This Week’s Christianne Amanpour tries to portray Islam as a moderate and peaceful religion, something doesn’t go quite right.
British Islamic Leader Anjem Choudary responds to Amanpour’s question about why people should not be afraid of Islamic domination:
Islam has a solution for all of the problems that mankind faces. If you want to live at peace with Muslims, we are quite willing to live at peace with you………..
This idea that you have moderate Muslims and you have radical Muslims is complete nonsense……..
We do believe as Muslims that the east and the west will one day be governed by the Sharia. Indeed we believe that one day the flag of Islam will fly over the White House……… Conquer the White House……….
Almost the full transcript of this segment:
IMAM: My point is–: — under the name of the Koran.
BAHLOUL: please sir, we have some people, Christians, Muslims, Jewish and other, who misuse the holy books. It’s understandable. I — I do not deny this. But I’m saying something the extreme majority of the Muslims, they have a proper understanding about this religion and they — and referring to your point, I agree with you. And am not expecting for everyone to become Muslim, as well.
AMANPOUR: But let me ask Daisy, this is something that everybody talks about. We’ve had questions — masses of questions through our Facebook, through many, many people who have tried to contribute to this program. Basically where are the voice of the moderates speaking up?
KHAN: Well, the moderates are speaking out. I happen to be one of them. I was devastated by the event of 9/11 and I had to quit my corporate career — a lucrative corporate career to ensure that we would create a counter-momentum against extremism so that another 9/11 does not ever happen again.
AMANPOUR: — what do you want to do with the Islamic center, which so many people have–
KHAN: Well, exactly–
AMANPOUR: — caused so much controversy?
KHAN: Well, this — this particular center will create a counter-momentum against extremism, because it will amplify the voices of moderate Muslims, which have gotten drowned out over the years by the extremists, because the extremists did not only hijack the planes, they hijacked an entire religion.
AMANPOUR: Let me just say stop you there for a second, because this side is obviously the side that says one shouldn’t fear and that there are moderates and the whole religion should not be painted with the same brush. I want to, though, now go to Anjem Choudary in London. You have said that you think there should be Islamic domination. Why shouldn’t people be afraid of that?
CHOUDARY: Well — well, let me just say that Islam has a solution for all of the problems that mankind faces. If you want to live at peace with Muslims, we are quite willing to live at peace with you. But let us remember that history did not begin on 9/11. Before 9/11, the Americans — the American government bombed Sudan and Afghanistan. They were supporting the pirate state of Israel. So 9/11 was a reaction. You know, I think that we need to get away from the stereotyping. And this idea that you have moderate Muslims and you have radical Muslims, you know, it’s complete nonsense. A Muslim is the one who submits to the command of the creator. If he submits, he is a practicing Muslim. If he is not, then he should be practicing.
DAISY KHAN: I have to disagree with him, because Islam is a religion of pluralism that embraces all religions and it also embraces different interpretations. This is why we have so many schools of thought. What Anjem is talking about is an exclusivist view of Islam, which is my way or the highway. And my interpretation is the only interpretation–
CHOUDARY: It’s very easy for people to justify the fact that they’re not practicing. I mean, this lady in your studio, she should be covering with the hijab. She’s obviously not practicing –
CHOUDARY: There are many people who are justifying — there are many people who are justifying the inability to practice the Sharia, to say, “Well, I have a different form of religion.” You know, people want to claim that they’re vegetarians and they’re eating big beef burgers. You can not be a non-practicing vegetarian. Therefore, similarly, if you’re a Muslim, you submit to the Sharia.
FRANKLIN GRAHAM: He’s telling the truth.
AMANPOUR: You see, Reverend Graham says you’re telling the truth. So, do you agree with Reverend Graham and our panelists on this side that Americans should fear Islam?
CHOUDARY: we do believe, as Muslims, the East and the West will one day be governed by the Sharia. Indeed, we believe that one day, the flag of Islam will fly over the White House. Indeed, there’s even an oration of the Prophet where he said, “The day of judgment will not come until a group of my oma… — “
DONNA MARSH O’CONNOR: Can I just — ?
CHOUDARY: “Conquer the White House.”
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